Napp Nazworth welcomes back Rich Logis, founder of Leaving MAGA, to discuss the controversial figure of Marjorie Taylor Greene and her recent resignation. The conversation delves into Greene’s ties to QAnon, her statements regarding Donald Trump, and the implications of her actions on the MAGA movement. Rich shares insights on how the Epstein story has become a pivotal issue for many within MAGA, leading to doubts and questions about their beliefs. He emphasizes that the journey of leaving MAGA often begins with a single betrayal or lie, which can trigger a broader reevaluation of one’s political identity.
As the discussion progresses, Rich highlights the internal conflicts within the MAGA community, particularly regarding Trump’s foreign policy decisions and their impact on domestic issues. He expresses hope for a gradual awakening among MAGA supporters, suggesting that many are beginning to question their allegiance. The episode concludes with Rich announcing his upcoming memoir, “One Betrayal Too Many,” which chronicles his experiences within MAGA and the motivations behind starting Leaving MAGA. This conversation provides a nuanced perspective on the complexities of political identity and the potential for change within the MAGA movement.
Learn more at LeavingMAGA.org.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Rich Lojas and Leaving MAGA
01:27 Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Controversial Statements
03:21 The Epstein Story: A Turning Point for MAGA Supporters
07:41 Contradictions in Greene’s Politics
10:14 Support for Leaving MAGA: Community and Resources
12:54 Emerging Issues Splitting the MAGA Coalition
18:18 The Impact of Recent Political Actions
22:08 Looking Ahead: Rich’s Upcoming Memoir
